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  Current    The Young Turks With Cenk Uygur    News/Business.   
   (2012) New. (CC) (Stereo)  

    November 1, 2012
    4:00 - 4:59pm PDT  

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>> cenk: this is my favorite story of the day. pundits across the country are mad at nate silver, analyst who got 48 out of 50 states right last time around. now politico is running an article saying he might be a one term celebrity. pundits are saying how can you do this math? it's not neutral. why are you doing math? he combines the polls and tracks it. here's his tracking of it. you can see that president obama was solidly in the lead and it shrank after the first debate and picked back up afterwards and is now at a significant
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advantage for president obama. now this shows the significant advantage for president obama damn it, you can't do that! we have to say he said, she said. joe scarborough is very upset about this. >> nate silver said there is a 73.6% chance that the president's going to win. anybody that thinks that this race is anything but a toss up right now is such an idealogue they should be kept away from type writers computers laptops and microphones for the next 10 days, because they're jokes. >> cenk: you should be kept away from a television camera. are you kidding me? all the guy's doing is math! now math is ideological? he said based on the ads now i think he's going to win. not because i want him to win
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because of the numbers. i still want to bet so i'll make it $2,000. another great quote is from jonathan carl: >> cenk: that right there is the washington media in a nutshell. i didn't bother looking at the facts or numbers. i asked the democrats and they said they were going to win and republicans said they are going to win. i'm confused. look at the facts. do some math! god, they're unbelievable. guys who care about the math are the odds makers. we sent ben mankiewicz to las vegas. ben, what do you have for us? >> well, in the words of deep
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throat to bob woodward, follow the money always follow the money. and the money is pretty clear on where this race is, and, you know you read that quote from jonathan karl. i don't know him but i know what's in his blood and in his heart is oh, no, fox news and sean hannity and rush limbaugh and bill o'reilly and michael savage and drudge report are going to call me a lefty if i say looks like obama has the heat. that's all it is. saying the race at 75% doesn't make it over. if the guy has a two thirds chaps of winning you roll the dice and the other guy wins. here in vegas, it is fairly obvious, and fairly clear what's happening, and i went here to ask the guys who know where the money was and this is what i found out. >> so, home here in las vegas
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and eager to make bets on the presidential election. obviously i'm in the right place. >> i've got some bad news for you. if you're looking to bet on the election, might have to send you away. don't take any wagers on presidential elections any politics in the state enormously. >> that was a wasted trip. good news, laws against gambling seem to have no impact on americans who continue to wager illegally pretty recklessly. in 2011, $2.88 billion was wagered legally atlasvasion sports books but according to the national gambling impact study commission. $380 billion was wagered illegally. >> suppose i want to make a wager offshore? what's happening? what's the line, if you will? >> right now seeing big movement toward barack obama. there are offshore books who had
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him a 2-1 favorite a week ago now 3-1. you're talking about a 75% likelihood that he's reelected as president. the gallop polls have shown romney had a leg up on the competition. >> what do you make of that? >> you always want to say money speaks louder than the so-called popularity polls. that's why they play the games and we'll know next tuesday night. >> are the guys who essentially wager on this or invest in this pretty reliable in general? >> you know what, these guys are a great indicator. there are a number of things going on as a barometer of truth. they may have taken a position early on romney as a huge underdog and try to bet it back with barack obama. normally you're going to see prices approaching 40 to 50 implies barack obama has a leg up on the competition.
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>> when a pun did it says it's a toss up, this race, that's not really correct. >> some of the indicators say one thing the odds are saying something substantially different. i'm curious to see what happens when the numbers settle into place. most of these spots will close prices mid-day on tuesday and that should be a real good indication what we'll see later. >> you can bet it six days from now, and can't pick a winner. >> i would lose that bet on wednesday. >> cenk: now ben the guy todd, there's one thing that i wanted to correct there. he referred to a gallup poll that has mitt romney up a little bit, right? but i don't want people to think well the polls say one thing the markets another. the reason the markets say president obama is going to win because that poll is an outliar and national poll witness be
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polls in the electoral battleground actually have president obama winning right? >> that's exactly what he was saying. these guys follow lines and sporting events. they were great to let us come in and do this. for me, it was incredibly cool place just to be. what he was saying is that it might seem contradict arery to some when you see that gallop poll. he knows those money guys are following the polls we see at the state level by the way national polls now. the gallop poll is an outliar and one of nine or 10 national polls, the others a different story. >> cenk: the closer we get to election is you guys were alluding to, the more certain the markets become and the more certain polls become. one of the reasons the main reason the polls are not a certainty is because things can change in the next five days,
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but as we get close to the election, they become more and more certain don't they? >> eventually, you run out of events that are going to change minds or sway people. we basically have a weekend left before the election. the right can cry all they want and jonathan karl say i don't know what's going to happen and scarborough can call everybody who does math an idiot, he can call them idiots until they're blue in the face. romney was in florida and virginia. three weeks ago after the denver debate, the thought was those states belonged to romney. the fact that he's here in those states five days before the election tells you he's trying to shore up those states and they also believe these polls. you know, the journalists are simply not telling an accurate story to the american people, but the last thing i just want to say about it, who cares? like it's ok to tell that story
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saying at a obama is the favorite right now at 350 basically, meaning you'd have to bet $350 win $100 on obama. we've all seen the underdog win but it does mean that romney is an underdog five days out. >> cenk: doesn't mean that you're biased in their favor. they're maddening. all right, ben, thank you man we'll speak to you again from vegas soon. when we come back, one had the guts to call it what it is. what others considering a controversial cover, but a cover we love. it's global warming, stupid and we're going to have the guy who wrote the article when we come back. >> that's just the size of a giant tanker, that's the size and this oil spill goes all the way out into the new york
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>> cenk: remember every time that it snows fox goes out there and goes what happened to global warming? we got a snowstorm! now all of a sudden, they're flipping that. eric bowling said yesterday on fox and friends: in other words when it's a snowstorm that tells you everything you need to know about climate but when it's a giant hurricane, that's just weather. luckily, not everybody is that stupid. mayor bloomberg of new york, of course, known very much throughout the country as an independent, used to be a republican has just decided to endorse president obama, because of climate change. let me read you part of his endorsement:
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>> cenk: so that's great. president obama had a response obviously thankful and said i'm honored to have mayor bloomberg's endorsement: >> cenk: now both bloomberg and president obama talked about working together. now here's the problem. the other side doesn't want to work together on this. in fact, there is a guy who wanted to bring attention to climate, silence and how we're having change at a mitt romney rally.
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look at what happens when he tries to shout about that and ask romney a question. watch. >> what about climate? that's what caused this monster storm! [ booing ] [ crowd chants u.s.a. ] >> cenk: i love that reaction. hey, what about climate science? u.s.a.! u.s.a.! we're number one! ha ha, take that, climate change. luckily, not everybody's that dense. new cover of business week is it's global warming stupid. we now have the author of that article, assistant managing
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editor of bloomberg business week joining us now. some believe this cover story is a bit controversial. do you believe it is? >> no, obviously the cover language is meant to get people's attention but if you read the story itself, you see we're playing it right down the middle. the issue here is not to blame climate change for any one particular storm but to say that the conditions in the atmosphere have indisputably changed and as a result of those changes, all storms generally speaking are going to be prone to be more severe and more frequent and we are beginning to see in undeniable terms the price of the warming of the atmosphere, the warming of the ocean waters and the rise of the ocean waters. >> cenk: paul, here's the problem with that. you say it's undeniable, all the scientists say it's undeniable, the republicans say i don't give
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a d.l., i'm going to deny it anyway. when mayor bloomberg and president obama talk about working together with the republicans, they're not going to work together about this, they're paid off. >> i don't know about paid off but in the short term, i fear your political analysis is correct. i don't think we'll see serious progress in this country until there's a president and congress controlled by people serious about the issue. i don't think mitt romney is being serious about the issue. >> cenk: real quick come on, why do you think they all of a sudden decided to ignore science? could it have something to do with all the campaign contributions from the fossil fuel industry? >> i have no doubt there's a connection there but it goes beyond that. this is a broad ideaological mindset, used as a way to sort
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of cleave the voters. i don't know that it matters to get into the motives of climate denial. it has helped stifle the debate and we have to hope and work toward reopen that go debate and taking constructive steps at least that's my point of view. >> cenk: i hear you on that. it's a great article. i want to thank you for having the courage to white what is right and true. these days, it takes courage. thank you for joining us. >> you bet, my pleasure. >> cenk: when we come back, someone else has courage on this issue, daryl hannah and she got arrested over it. we're going to talk to her. >> you were taken in and booked on suspicion of criminal trespass thatting. she was among a group of protestors taken into custody last year in washington, d.c.
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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> cenk: you might know daryl hannah as an actress but she's also a huge environmental activist. on the boards of eco america alliance action and the list goes on and on. she executive produced a movie called greedy lying bass starteds. she joins us now on the "young turks." good to see that you're out of jail. >> thank you. >> cenk: why were you protesting there and how did go down? >> well, i was meeting with a bunch of farmers ranchers and landowners in texas who were dismayed because their land is being taken through eminent domain. we are talking about people who are not necessarily liberals or democrats and still shocked that a foreign company could come and take their property even though they weren't wanting it to and they weren't making any
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agreements with them and they were still bringing this pipeline through their property. the lady he was arrested with was a 78-year-old land owner. her husband was in the oil business for 50 years and we were that arrested on her property that she still has to pay taxes for including the part that they took through eminent dough nine. >> cenk: that's amazing and telling. we're going to build this oil pipeline, we'll arrest you for trespassing on your own property. how do they justify that? >> eleanor fairchild her husband was in the oil business. she knows oil and pipe lines and doesn't have a problem with either. what she has a problem with is tar sands. it's going to be through the aquifer in texas which serves 10 million to 12 million people and industry and the fresh water drinking source and serves the ranch and farmland for irrigation water. tar sands is the dirtiest facile
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fuel on the planet. that is about the extraction process. if we put in the key stone pipeline, not just the southern portion which was fast tracked but the northern portion they're trying to resubmit plans for so it doesn't go through another aquifer, that is going to increase the development of the tar sands exponentially. it's plan is to increase by four times as far as i know. >> the gene party presidential candidate was also arrested. >> that's right. >> i want to understand the southern-northern part. president obama has so far blocked the northern part but did ok the southern part. isn't that also a little counter intuitive? the southern part ships the oil from outside the country. i thought we were doing that for energy independence. >> that is not true.
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that's b.s. we've been fed and accept. that oil is getting down to the gulf of mexico so it can be available for export. that is the thing that's been so disingenuous saying this is for energy security and independence. it is not. it's for a foreign company transcanada who is building the pipeline and the oil companies invested in it, exxon shell, et cetera to get their oil to the open market. >> do you get discouraged seeing president obama engages in that same 19 sense when he knows he approved the thing that is going to send oil to other countries not our country. romney loves it, all the washington loves it. how in the world are we going to fight back when it seems they've got all the politicians. >> we've got to get rid of citizens united states. that ruling was just the most immoral unethical thing i mean it's shocking, frankly, you know
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that we're allowed to put this much money into the pockets of politicians. i mean, you look at how many politicians are on the payroll of the koch brothers, of the oil companies. it's just shocking, and $6 billion by next week by the time we go into the polls into political campaigns. it's just hideous. >> cenk: over the last two days on this show. james-sewn, one of the leading scientists in the world dennis kucinich and yourself talking about the number one problem is money in politics. we can't solve issues while our politicians are bought and paid for by these companies. >> exactly. >> cenk: one last question about president obama. do you believe that if he's reelected he will approve the northern portion? >> i think he's always been planning to. he put it off because he knew elections were coming up and obviously thousands of people
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got arrested voluntarily in front of the white house. the white house was surrounded by people a few weeks later in protest of this pipeline. people realize that water and our uncontaminated water soil and food, the aquifer serves for water a third of our nation's ranch and farmlands. if that is contaminated, we are screwed, so he kind of just pushed it aside and said you know what, we're going to postpone that until we review. he was hitting a wall against republicans, democrats tea party saying no, it's not going through. he quickly quietly fast tracked the southern leg. when i was arrested, people were shocked to know that the key stone was already going in. >> cenk: he's definitely going to approve it. i agree with you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> cenk: when we come back, we've got the elbow of the day. it's fun and landing right on
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>> cenk: the president has been receiving a lot of bipartisan love this week. of course, first there was chris christie. >> the president is great. i spoke to him three times yesterday. >> he's worked incredibly closely with me. >> the president has been all over this. he deserves great credit. >> i appreciate his friendship. >> we're doing the jobs that people elected us to do. >> cenk: so, of course, that's the republican gore of new jersey. then we go to colin powell. >> will you endorse president obama? >> yes. i think we ought to keep on the track that we're on. >> cenk: and as we showed you earlier in the show, mayor bloomberg, widely nobody as an independent, used to be a republican has endorsed president obama but we're not done yet. the final elbow on top of mitt romney's head is from the
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london-based newspaper the economist which is economically conservative. nonetheless, they're endorsing president obama. here's why they say they're doing that. "the extremism of his party referring to mitt romney is mr. romney's greatest handicap. this newspaper yearns for the more tolerant conserve t.i. of ronald reagan where it meant keeping the state out of people bead rooms as well as out of their businesses. mr. romney shows no signs of wanting to revive it." now, you know romney has become right wing when you look for the compassionate conservatism of ronald reagan. they also continue. "for all his business-like intentions mr. romney has an economic plan that works only if you don't believe most of what he says. that's not a convincing pitch for chief executive. and for all his short comings mr. obama has dragged america's economy back from the brink of disaster and has made a decent first of foreign policy. so this newspaper would stick with the devil it knows and re-elect him."
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